So lets talk weapons balance shall we

[Dominus Et Deus]

well I have played for over a year now and I would like to make a few remarks about the weapons balance between the opposing factions in the game.

each side has its stengths and weaknesses, and learning to play within those takes a great deal of time get used to. However there are a few things I wish to harp on for a moment:

1) The biggest problem I have encountered is the brimestone laser (BS) on the FS assualt MAV. I chose this because of the fact that it is capable of traveling most of the way across a map almost instantley and doing 125 damage points while being hopelesly out of range of EC weaponry.

I know the typical arguement favoring this weapon as being its limited power supply. But that hardly makes a difference when facing a multitude of them at once. I can safely say that I have yet to be able to win a battle when facing more than one or 2 of them.

The EC simply have no weapons that compare to it in accuracy, range, or damage capability.

I would haope that in the future the damage done by the BS laser is reduced to 100 or less, or a mod can be made to increase the ammo and splash damage done by the artillery on the EC assault MAV.

2) EC spider missiles are too difficult to evade using flares.

Well I have heard this one time and again, and I would first like to say that because of the way in which the spider missiles fire from all around the outside of the MAV the scout must be air borne in order to get the full 80 damage points other wise half of them just slam into the dirt upon firing, and do actuall damage to the scout MAV itself and only inflicting 40 damage points to the target itself if they all hit.

This all means that in order for the EC scout to get a few good shots with its missiles it be hovering above and unable to use its cloak; in other words an easy target for auto cannon fire or FS missiles.

The spider missiles were developed as a counter measure for the BS laser, but the EC scout and its missiles are hardly a match against an FS assault with laser let alone several of them.

I see these as the primary grippes of most players in the game, and I have stated my opinion, so let the gripping begin!

the DOM of JOM

[Jadefigure]

lol spider missiles are not an outweighed weapon...it does 10 per missile, at least a few hit the ground prior to impact even if fired from above because of terrain

I find that scouts just dont cut it anymore in this game...they are just too weak, i mean, ive fought people who are better than me who are in a scout and they just dance around me peppering me with ac..and then when they land i hit them with a few rockets and I win. They are just too weak and the way the game is played now they are only good for core runs.

and now onto the brimstone, ill say it again...it depicts the perfect fs weapon, great at long range and very powerful yet easy to counter. The way to counter it is to get close, yet when we get close (which we take a great deal of damage trying to do so) we have nothing to take it out with. They need to make a frickin destructive close range weapon for the pred this would even the odds

[aqualung]

I have to agree jade spiders aren't that good. All they do is knock around your screen, which is very annoying but doesnt win games or even give you kills. The rare kills i do get in a scout are usually ks's , and if i am winning a fight my opponent can run away and heal cuz in a scout i cant do enough damage to stop him.

I think the brimstone is too powerful, as every time i fight one i accept that i lose the fight and just try to do as much damage as possible. I sometimes win if i can get close, but even then it has so much armor its hard to take down.

I say the destructive weapon for the pred are drota rockets, at 120 damage for a full hit, but there are only 20 shots. I also say the pred artillery should at least do as much as the shadd homer, do more splash damage, and have more ammo.

[skylark]

I used to try to use them a lot because I thought they were really good. Now I know, (and before this thread) that it barely conflicts any damage, therefore the EC auto cannon A is much better. This thread proved my thoughts. Yes I hope that Spiders could be brought up with damage a bit, and brimstones, down a bit.

sky

[Jadefigure]

well ive been experimenting with scouts..and usually when in a scout ppl always take spiders but, here is a good tactic

Get the biggest drotas they have (forgot the name) and cloak up behind an unsuspecting enemy and let loose the juice on him, especcially like a lib that cant turn fast, u will do some serious dmg

[Jadefigure]

I change my mind..scouts are still useless unless u can outnumber the nme with them

[aqualung]

Well I've found a strategy that does work pretty well with scouts. When there's a fight going on, move a good distance away from the fight so your a hard target. Then jet in the air and shoot spiders while pressing "c" rapidly. Since im in the air, most spiders hit and repeatedly cloaking stops homers.
I prefer to just use a more powerfull MAV though

[pigpen]

The only effect weapon against the BS is the Vulcan at close range, the problem of course is closing to close range with out first taking a BS hit or three.

pigpen

[hellphoenix]

True, that really does work, pigpen. I found that it does work, but however, it is really hard to get in close to just one liberator with a laser than rather more than one.